By 微博 [@蓋勒的永恆傳說](https://weibo.com/u/7796892937) ## 前言 All Too Well在霉女的作品史和霉粉心中的意义都不必赘述。作为gaylor博主,我不止一次被问到对这首歌的看法,但是我一直都没有回应过,因为我自己也没有想明白,怕误导人。一方面,霉和Jake Gyllenhaal的很多恋情细节能够对应上这首歌(感兴趣的请移步红薯ID:fearlesswild);但是另一方面,这首歌的创作时间迷雾重重,很多证据指向的创作时间和Jake Gyllenhaal的恋爱时间(2010.10.23—2010.12,具体日期不详)对应不上。 我对ATW创作时间的怀疑来自于一个冲突点:美国版权著作网站显示ATW是在2010年创作的,但Lover Journal显示ATW是在2011.2—3被创作出来的。 ![[Pasted image 20240229144941.png]] ![[ba87aab1d890e914261f0a58f497a931_MD5.png]] 除了ATW,RED中还有一首3stay也登记在了2010年: ![[6b8c1f6a4220925f83181b11828ec07d_MD5.png]] 所以出错的概率几乎为零,因为团队如果为了省事,会干脆都登记为2011年,错也不可能就错这两首。无论出于何种目的,登记成2010年的行为都说不过去,除非,它真的是写于2010年。 今天,我不探讨这首歌是写给谁的,我也不认为这首歌一定不是写给Jake Gyllenhal 的,我只把事实摆出来,没有结论,大家自行思考判断。 由于证据过多且混乱,我按照“来源”划分,如“来自霉的资料”、“来自Liz的资料”、“来自专文的资料”等。 首先说两个前提,第一,根据歌词和一些资料,ATW不是在“刚分手”就被创作出来的,而是经过了一段时间的沉淀才开始创作;第二,霉和Jake分手后并不是“老死不相往来”的局面,俩人的关系不能说很好但是也不错,分手不久后还一起吃饭聊天(这个时间甚至早于Lover日记本中ATW的初稿日期): ![[63b9406f62a47681e20c7ce19316287b_MD5.jpg]] ![[ae2b4449fc62c550a8df5c14cbc0d71f_MD5.png]] --- ## 正文 首先是来自霉的口述 >[!quote] Taylor Swift Reveals New Album is All About Heartbreak “I’ve been writing it (RED) since before the last record came out.” “在上一张唱片发行之前,我就一直在写它(专辑RED)。” >[!quote] Taylor Swift Red - Stories behind the Songs “It's the first song I wrote for this record actually.” “这(ATW)实际上是我为这张唱片写的第一首歌。” >[!quote] 500 Greatest Albums Podcast: Taylor Swift on How ‘Red’ Changed Everything For Her “The first that was written was All Too Well” “第一个写的就是 All Too Well”。 >[!quote] 佐证:Songwriter Spotlight: Liz Rose “It was the first song she wrote for that record, I think.” “我想这是她为那张唱片写的第一首歌。” RED的上一张专辑Speak Now发行于2010.10.25,发行之前霉就开始创作RED,且ATW是RED中写的第一首, **由此得出结论一:ATW创作于2010.10.25之前;** --- >[!quote] Taylor Swift’s 10-Minute Version of All Too Well Almost Wasn’t Recorded (Extended) | Tonight Show 
“I think I was 21 when I wrote this, and I was in band rehearsals for a tour that I was about to go out on called The Speak Now Tour, and I showed up for rehearsals, and I just was really upset…and the song just went on for about, you know,10 to 15 minutes of us doing this…And then we got done with that, and then we moved on to the regularly scheduled rehearsal. And at the end of the day, my mom came up to my sound guy, and she's like, "Is there any chance that you recorded that?" And he was like, ", "Yep," and handed her a CD. The 10-minute version of "All Too Well”… "我写这首歌的时候大概 21 岁,当时我正在为即将开始的巡回演唱会’Speak Now’进行乐队排练,我出现在排练现场,我真的很难过......这首歌就这样唱了大概 10 到 15 分钟......然后我们结束了排练,接着进行正常的排练。排练结束后,我妈妈来找我的音响师 她说,"你们有没有可能录下来?" 他说 "是的",然后递给她一张CD 10分钟版本的 "All Too Well"... 霉的生日是1989.12.13,Speak Now Tour于2011.2.9启航, **由此得出结论二:ATW创作于2010.12.13——2011.2.9之间;** --- >[!QUOTE] 500 Greatest Albums Podcast: Taylor Swift on How ‘Red’ Changed Everything For Her >“I was like a broken human walking into rehearsal…I remember we had just hired David Cook, who [has been] my band leader ever since then. I think it was his first day meeting me.” “我就像一个破碎的人走进排练……我记得我们刚刚聘请了David Cook,从那以后他一直是我的乐队领队。我想那是他第一天见到我。” David Cook和霉的首秀在2011.1.21: ![[801b69c99c5687ac97e7b29266083a56_MD5.jpg]] **由此得出结论三:ATW创作于2011.1.21之前;** --- >[!QUOTE] >“I remember my sound guy was like, 'I burned a CD of that thing you were doing in case you want it.' I was like, 'Sure.' I ended up taking it home and listening to it and was like, 'I actually really like this, but it's 10 minutes long. I need to pair it down.’” "我记得我的音响师说,'我把你做的那件事刻录了一张 CD,以备不时之需'。'我说,'当然可以。'最后我把它带回家听了听,觉得'其实我真的很喜欢这个,但它有10 分钟长。我需要把它配对下来。” >[!question] Q1:是霉妈去找的音响师,还是音响师主动找的霉? 《73 Questions With Taylor Swift | Vogue》: ![[bde3539fd210b53ee1114219131c7294_MD5.png]] ![[46a09aa235b96434a5e35688f9a7b989_MD5.jpg]] >[!quote] “《All Too Well》(很难在情感上写出来),因为我花了很长时间来过滤我想要放在歌里的所有东西,而不是一首10分钟的歌,你不能把它放在一张专辑里。我想要一个可以以歌曲的形式出现的故事,于是我打电话给我的联合编剧利兹·罗斯(Liz Rose)说,‘过来,我们得把这个过滤掉。’我花了很长时间才得到它。” >[!quote] Taylor Swift sees 'Red' all over "There's a kind of bad that gets so overpowering you can't even write about it," she says of that time. "When you feel pain that is so far past dysfunctional, that leaves you with so many emotions that you can't filter them down to simple emotions to write about, that's when you know you really need to get out." “有一种糟糕的感觉会让你无法抗拒,甚至无法写出来,”她谈到那段时间时说。“当你感受到的痛苦远远超过了功能失调,它会让你有很多情绪,你无法将它们过滤成简单的情绪来写,这时你就知道你真的需要出去了。” >[!question] Q2:Lover Journal显示ATW只写了一个月,但以上三段口述都可以证明ATW经过了好几个月的创作才完工。 事实上,广为流传的“巡演排练” 说法最初来自于**一位名为madeofstarlite-deactivated20130的粉丝记录的霉妈的话**,ta是这样说的: ![[c8e702652be195e642bb5f387d6daa46_MD5.png]] >[!quote] “斯威夫特妈妈告诉我们,泰勒是如何全身心地投入到她写的每一首歌中,她写过的最让人心痛的歌是“ATW”。这是我一直以来最喜欢的歌,所以我记住了每一个字。她告诉我们,泰勒写ATW时,他们还在为2010年的无畏巡演排练。泰勒走上舞台,每个人都能看出她一直在哭。每个人都知道她刚刚经历了一场糟糕的分手,但演出必须继续下去。她拿起一把吉他,开始弹ATW的片头。她唱了一小段,乐队的人都困惑地环顾四周,因为这是一首他们不知道的歌。然后房间里的每个人都明白了,他们不知道这首歌,因为她当时就在那里写。慢慢地,乐队开始加入她的行列。当她读到“你又打电话给我,只是想打破我的承诺”这部分时,安德里亚说她哭着尖叫着说出了这句话。当她完成后,斯威夫特妈妈转向音响师,问他是否录制了这首歌,他泪流满面地说他录制了。她把这首歌保留到了红色专辑,因为这首歌在2010年仍然太原始了。” 很快有人纠正是Speak Now Tour,于是ta对发言进行了修改。 第一次是将Fearless tour改为了”The Tour in late 2010”, 第二次改为了” the Speak Now Tour in 2010” 无畏巡演从2009.4.23持续到了2010.7.10,在2009.11.24—2010.2.4期间进行了休息,2.4表演之前肯定要再排练一下,就暂且算作是二月 无论怎样修改,2010年都是不变的,而且“she kept the song until the red album because it was still too raw in 2010”这句话跟霉说的“在SP发行前她就已经开始创作RED”可以对应上。 根据这位粉丝的汤不热转述,可以得出: **结论四:ATW创作于2010.2—7.10;** **结论五:ATW创作于late 2010;** **结论六:ATW创作于2010年;** --- 接下来的资料来自**唯一的co-writer,Liz Rose** >[!quote] Songwriter Spotlight: Liz Rose “When we did 'All Too Well,' I hadn't heard from her in awhile. She hadn't really been writing. I was in Nashville one day, slowly moving the last bits of junk out of my garage so I could move to Dallas. My house had already sold, so I had to come back and clean it out. I had a trailer and four guys helping me, and I was sick with some kind of sinus infection. It was just the worst day. I was in my driveway and my phone rings, and it's Taylor saying, 'Man, I've got this thing and I really need you to help me with it. Can you write today?’” “我们创作ATW的时候,我有一段时间没有她的消息了。她并没有真正在写作。有一天,我在纳什维尔,慢慢地从车库里搬出最后一点垃圾,以便搬到达拉斯去。我的房子已经卖了,所以我不得不回来把它打扫干净。我有一辆拖车,四个人帮我,我得了鼻窦感染。这是最糟糕的一天。我当时在车道上,我的电话响了,是泰勒说的,‘伙计,我有件事,我真的需要你帮我。你今天能写作吗?’” Liz Rose出生于Dallas并在此长大,后来搬去了纳什维尔,然后又搬回Dallas生活了几年,我无法确定她是具体哪一年搬回去的,根据社交媒体上的互动,目前有三个可能年份:09,10,11。以下是可以证明Liz在Dallas的社交媒体互动的日期: 2009.7.3: ![[6e00464b89b5f74f8e94d937324fd5e1_MD5.png]] 2010.2.27/3.2/9.22/9.25: ![[232c6fb1a80f60dbe5aee3d61bcc50a3_MD5.png]] 2011.2.25/4.4/4.18/5.25: ![[031be8915a64149d5b5173dd6d0b4cac_MD5.jpg]] 除此之外,Liz还在2010.7.12在Dallas注册了公司:![[a3e01b3b80294a6f4adac24afc48639b_MD5.jpg]] 因此她在2010年搬回Dallas的可能性是最大的。 如果能够框定在2010年,霉在2010.4.27的vlog里说自己刚结束ACM颁奖典礼(4.18日)就去参加Liz的婚礼: ![[d30394a1c03ffe3f381a6098d164ae4b_MD5.jpg]] 结合Liz说的“I hadn't heard from her in a while”,和她在七月注册公司这件事,推测霉联络她写ATW是2010年下半年的事。 **由此得出结论七:ATW创作于2010年下半年;** --- >[!quote] Liz Rose Talks About Her Hit Collaboration With Taylor Swift, and Building Her Publishing Company “It was probably 10 minutes long in her head. She called me and started bouncing it off me” “在她脑子里大概有 10 分钟长。她给我打了电话,开始跟我唠叨。” >[!quote] Songwriter Spotlight: Liz Rose “She already had a melody and she started singing some words, and I started writing things down, saying,"Ok, let's use this, let's use that.” “她已经有了旋律,她开始唱一些词,我开始把东西写下来,说,‘好吧,我们用这个,我们用那个。’” >[!quote] From Irving to Nashville to a Grammy: Songwriter Liz Rose Crushes It "There's not a long version," Rose says. “Well, there may be. The one I know of was in her brain. She had this long story and musically all the things she wanted to put in it. It was probably a 20-minute song when she called me." “没有长版本,”罗斯说。“嗯,也许有。我知道的那个在她脑子里。她有一个很长的故事,音乐上她想把所有的东西都放进去。她打电话给我的时候,大概是一首20分钟的歌。” >[!question] Q3:如果“巡演排练”故事是真的,那么不管是霉妈要来了CD,还是音响师主动给了霉CD,不管是在霉结束弹奏ATW后霉妈立即向音响师索要了CD,还是在当天的排练结束后霉妈才去找音响师,最最最最初的ATW都是被用CD记录下来的,“十分钟版的ATW”在物理意义上存在,而不仅仅是在霉的脑海里。但是,多年来Liz坚称的说法意味着她从来没有听到过最初的CD,ATW的创作方式是霉一边演奏Liz一边选择性地记录,而不是删减已有的10分钟的录音。 **一篇来自2012.10.17的文章**是这样讲述ATW的: ![[e69e72bb623e4f251bbad0ad0ce3e0aa_MD5.png]] >[!quote] > “Chronologically, the album began with All Too Well, a song she wrote almost two years ago with Liz Rose, one of her earliest and most regular co-writers. The song came after a six-month writing drought that followed a particularly toxic relationship.” “按时间顺序,这张专辑以《All Too Well》开始,这首歌是她大约两年前与利兹·罗斯(Liz Rose)共同创作的,利兹是她最早也是最经常合作的作曲家之一。这首歌是在经历了六个月的写作荒之后创作的,这是一段特别有害的关系。” **“almost two years ago”**——2010.10.17之后 **“came after a six-month writing drought”**——2010.12.16(左右,因为这里的六个月不可能是完全准确的),这个时间是根据霉为Speak Now创作的最后一首歌的时间推出来的。 霉为Speak Now创作的最后一首歌是The Story Of Us,根据Lover Journal,这首歌是在2010.6.16写完的,写完这首歌之后霉“can safely say I am DONE writing this record!! ”,由此确定这是最后一首歌: ![[d36792d22b8f3e75696a25761a838152_MD5.png]]   **结论八:ATW创作于2010.10.17后** **结论九:ATW创作于2010.12.16左右** --- **总结一下,** **霉在版权局登记的创作时间:2010** **霉在Lover日记里写的创作时间:2011.2—3** **来自霉的口述的创作时间:** **①:2010.10.25之前** **②:2010.12.13——2011.1.21之前** **来自Liz的可能性最高的创作时间:** **2010年下半年** **来自专文的创作时间:** **2010.10.17——12.16左右** **来自汤不热转述的创作时间:** **①:2010.2——7.10** **②:late 2010** --- ## 结语 太多证据证明Lover日记里记录的创作时间并不真实了。事实上,能证明ATW创作于2011.2—3月的证据仅仅只有日记本一条。 那么她为什么要这么做? 她和ATW的“公认”男主Jake在2010.12月分手,尽管具体日期不详,但人们习惯于将The Moment I Knew这首歌也按在他头上(PS:霉之前在汤上评论了一位粉丝的手写的这首歌的歌词“I was reading this like 'this post is so SAD' and then I went oh ya I wrote that so that happened tonight”),并认为Jake没有出席霉的21岁生日会是他们分手的导火索。 所以,其实只要ATW是2010.12.13后创作的就能对应上时间线,没必要非得放在2011年。 但这也带来了一个巨大的问题:ATW明显不是刚分手后就写的,采访能证明这一点,歌词更可以(不分析十分钟版的,后期加工痕迹太明显): “And I know it's long gone and that magic's not here no more 'Cause there we are again on that little town street” “You almost ran the red 'cause you were lookin' over at me Wind in my hair, I was there I remember it all too well” “And I know it's long gone and there was nothing else I could do And I forget about you long enough to forget why I needed to” “And you call me up again just to break me like a promise” “Time won't fly, it's like I'm paralyzed by it I'd like to be my old self again But I'm still trying to find it” **所以,将ATW的创作时间延后至2011.2月,人为创造出两个月的空档,就可以满足歌词和之前采访里的说法了。至于之前对创作时间的说法,尽管互联网还留存着“ATW写于2010年”的记忆(例如Reddit和贴吧都保留着当年的讨论),但如果不是特意去查,直接搜索ATW创作日期,显示出来的就是2011.2—3月了,版权局的资料更是没什么人会去看。** **至少,她是这样期望的。**